[stringtemplate-interest] IronStringTemplate

[Robert Byrne]

I think I've figured out a way to do all I need with the current
implementation, by overriding the template lookup process, which was the
only real question mark.

Now the only reason to roll my own implementation would be for the
educational value of building the translator via ANTLR + DLR, I may tinker
with it in my free time if I can't find a better solution looking for a
problem :)

Looking fwd to the next version, is there a roadmap?

Rob.

-----Original Message-----
From: Terence Parr [mailto:parrt at cs.usfca.edu] 
Sent: 29 June 2009 20:02
To: Robert Byrne
Cc: 'Todd Stout'; stringtemplate-interest at antlr.org
Subject: Re: [stringtemplate-interest] IronStringTemplate

note that I'm completely rewriting ST in August/September (same  
functionality but cleaned up and ANTLR v3 clean; no v2).
T
On Jun 29, 2009, at 5:32 AM, Robert Byrne wrote:

> The primary reason is that I need to use 3rd party asp.net server  
> controls, which StringTemplate as it stands won't support. Short of  
> trying to render the server controls into html chunks and insert  
> them into a template (something I have already investigated) I would  
> have to stick with the standard webforms view engine and be done  
> with it.
>
> From: Todd Stout [mailto:todd.tstout at gmail.com]
> Sent: 29 June 2009 13:15
> To: Robert Byrne
> Cc: stringtemplate-interest at antlr.org
> Subject: Re: [stringtemplate-interest] IronStringTemplate
>
> StringTemplate works just fine with .Net now.  What is the  
> motivation for re-implementing it?
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Robert Byrne <rob at fractis.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I'm toying with the idea of building a StringTemplate implementation  
> for the DLR (Microsoft .NET Dynamic Language Runtime), hence the  
> Iron prefix which matches up with other projects like IronPython,  
> IronRuby etc.
>
>
>
> The primary use case I'm thinking is for ASP.NET, where I have one  
> pressing need: I must be able to use existing ASP.NET server  
> controls. This means I can't use StringTemplate out of the box, so  
> it got me thinking about building an interpreter/translator that  
> would sit on top of normalASP.NET MVC pages. I really believe in the  
> clean view only semantics and philosophy of StringTemplate, as well  
> as its clean syntax, especially as the templates are edited by web  
> designers who cant deal with the traditional ASP.NET syntax.
>
>
>
> I also feel that a native .NET implementation on the DLR with  
> ASP.NET in mind can provide a better developer experience (i.e.  
> support for concepts useful in web application development) and  
> better performance/scalability too.
>
>
>
> Because I want to get my hands dirty with the DLR and ANTLR, I'm  
> essentially scratchbuilding the project, starting from a handwritten  
> grammar up.
>
>
>
> Would there be any interest in this? I can imagine there are a few  
> people who want to adopt StringTemplate but are bound by the  
> requirement to use existing 3rd party server controls like datagrids  
> etc, or would like to use traditional ASP.NET views with some  
> StringTemplate markup.
>
>
>
> Also, is there any objection to the use of the name/syntax in an  
> 'unofficial' spin off, considering that it would not be a fully  
> compatible implementation (I intend not to implement some advanced  
> features like parallel template application (for now) as well as add  
> some additional features that are meaningful to web application  
> development, also no groups). I would of course include all the  
> relevant notices and attributions. My only concern is that it could  
> cause confusion in the community, as to what the relationship is  
> between the 'official' version and this upstart one.
>
>
>
> Any thoughts are welcome.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert.
>
>
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